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From: jcompton@flood.xnet.com
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Subj: Re: Where Things Stand 8/20
Date: 28 Aug 1996 14:45:03
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From: jcompton@flood.xnet.com (Jason Compton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Where Things Stand 8/20
Date: 28 Aug 1996 14:45:03 GMT
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Roberto Rosselli Del Turco (rosselli@ling.unipi.it) wrote:
: The sooner, the better. Someone has suggested to put the OS on a
: CD-ROM and include ADE too. That seems a good idea to me (1. to make
: every Amiga owner a potential developer 2. to give the means to
: compile GCC sources, a la UNIX), but it would even better to start
: working again on the AppBuilder, or an up to date substitute, as
: absolute beginners need something like Visual Basic on the PC.
Not a bad idea but I'm sure Fred Fish would like to have some say about
that first. :)
: >When we own the technology and receive attractive licensing offers,
: >that's when. There's no substantial talks that can be had--it doesn't
: >make sense to hold serious negotiations when we don't actually have
: >anything at the table.
: mmm.... this sounds rather unconvincing, Jason. On the one side, you
: imply that you have received "unattractive" licensing offers, so far.
: This is weird: shouldn't VIScorp the one to determine the price of a
: license? What's more, you *can* hold serious negotiation, even if you
: still don't own AT,you can reach an agreement and *then*, the day after AT
: becomes VIScorp GmbH, sign the licensing contract. I really don't know
: why wait and waste some more time: don't you think that Sassenrath and
: Finkel know very well what they're talking about?
It's still fascinating that the PIOS presentation of events is accepted
for fact. I don't want to say any more about the situation until I get
some word from higher up, but our interpretation of events is somewhat
different.
And yes, we can have talks, and we can listen and invite people to make
presentations, which we HAVE. I've got one very interesting
Amiga-related proposal from a well-known company in my mailbox and
another is planning a trip down to Chicago to discuss our hardware
options. But we cannot commit to anything, and it is a damned weak
bargaining position when one company present doesn't actually have the
goods being discussed in hand!
: I've already seen people shouting "PIOS is the only hope for the
: AMIGA!!", and there are Phase5 fans thinking "Phase5 is the only hope
: for the AMIGA!!". Well, *I don't think so*: the only hope for the
: Amiga (my humble opinion) is *VIScorp, PIOS and Phase5 working
: together*. Phase5 can't afford to develop new hardware *and* a
: completely new, AmigaOS compatible OS at the same time. VIScorp can't
: afford to develop a new, revamped AmigaOS *and* a porting to the PPC
: *and* the STB line at the same time. PIOS doesn't *want* to develop a
: new (Amiga)OS for their boxes, so they might look elsewhere (God
: forbid! Even if it could be interesting to buy a PPCP machine with
: multiple OSes, BeOS and AmigaOS for instance). If I am wrong, correct
: me: tell me VIScorp has the resources to do all this, and more (how
: about marketing?); but I don't think so.
All along, I've been talking about how much I want everyone to work
together. And it really troubles me that PIOS won't even give us the
time to secure the deal before jumping to conclusions.
: So resume those talks, and license the OS, and begin work on the
: porting. The sooner, the better. I understand VIScorp has bought AT
: because wanted control over the OS: sitting on it would be a deadly
: mistake, IMHO.
It would.
: >: - when will the PPC *definitely* be chosen as the CPU to be used in new
: >: Amigas;
: >Talk about a leading question.
: *Sigh* ... answer that question, tell something about your plans, and
: *then* ask for patience, faith, etc. etc.
We are continuing to have as many discussions as possible on the RISC
issue but the hard and fast truth is that these mega-corps do not want to
have a serious, hard and fast negotiation until we have technology and
ownership in hand.
: >The first generation UITI will remain 680x0. I don't know what the
: >set-top development cycle is beyond that.
: You should have a look at what other STB/NC builders are doing:
: they're all moving towards RISC. But of course VIScorp knows this.
For January launch, there's little else we can do.
--
Jason Compton jcompton@xnet.com
Communications Manager - Amiga, VIScorp http://www.vistv.com/
Editor-in-Chief, Amiga Report Magazine (847) 741-0689 FAX
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